Note what happened to Clinton shortly after the Radiation experiments were exposed. After that, everything goes black. I would guess that except for those who have had their harassment become very overt, most victims have assumed that there was bad luck in their lives, never saw the potential that they had, or become something else (in religion, political thinking, etc) since that appears to be one of the goals of some of the experiments.

Unfortunately, the groups set up to help those with the so-called organize stalking problem are cointelproed and serve to have the victims replace the terminologies of: trauma conditioning, personality studies, and behavior modification with “mind control” (which freaks out the general public), “gang” stalking (when there are no organizations of stalkers, just individuals who might be snitches or have other reasons in participating, agents and NLP freaks). They are also encouraged to shift their beliefs from “the old world order” is out to get us to the “new world order is out to get us.” (Clearly this unethical experimentation is old new, nothing new.)

Will someone with morals and a strong sense of ethics in the government come out and say something about what is going on? Or we we continue to suffer in silence for the sake of not being discredited or made turkeys when we ask for justice? If this is “national security” let me move to a nation where national security doesn’t include hurting innocent people within the nation or harassing children.

Hopefully Guantanamo will open up the doors into an investigation. Then those of us who have survived “trauma conditioning” atrocities can finally have normal lives.

Here is the Most up to date information on Matt and Debbie Manka:

Whomever the dumbell was that wrote the above letter defending them is very uninformed(it is likely Matt Manka):

1) Matt Manka was counseling Debbie Strand )in early to mid 1990s)and her husband Joe Strand in Orland Park for marriage counseling. he had previously counseled another family member thus knew debbie and husband joe were millionares.!!!hmmmmm

2) he suggested to Debbie to counsel her alone and sent hubby to another counselor in the same Orland park counseling complex. Here is where there sexual relationship began as admitted to her sons and daughter years later any denial of this is a lie to protect his license!!!!

3) Joe strand(husband) tried filing an investigation on Matt and basically ran him out of town as the department of ethical standards would eventually catch up with him. (this is why they move around so much)

4) DCFS was called on Debbie twice for violent episodes with daughter in 1998

5) attorney Scott D Sherwin filed for all psyche records and transcripts between Debbie and Matt manka to display to the court the nature of this illegal relationship(mark perks attorney)

5) matt Mankas ex girlfriends and wife came to the Strand home and pleaded with debbie not to trust Matt as he had abused a woman forcibly before in some violent episode,police were called , Debbie was warned by this woman not to marry Matt

6) Police were employed from Orland Park again as Matt had a brawl with another of Debbies male harem in front of the kids,all parties were drunk

7) Debbies own son tried to punch out Matt in objection to their marriage and other issues

Police we employed again to the strand house as the son was having a mental breakdown and threatening other with a knife following a drug overdose

If anyone doubts any of this use the FOIA (freedom of information act) and file with Orland Park Police to get the records on the Strand household as Debbie and Matt were on watch. it will display to all that want to see it that Matt should have his license revoked once and for all!!!!

L2 Psychology

Also, the experiment told us a hell of a lot about human nature and the effects of/peoples reactions to authority. Was especially relevant at the time, not THAT long after the second world war and just months after the trial of a number of Nazi war criminals.